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Re: DBI vs DBIx::Recordset vs princepawn vs chromatic

by mirod (Canon)
on Mar 08, 2001 at 03:01 UTC ( #62861=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to DBI vs DBIx::Recordset vs princepawn vs chromatic

As danger said, everything you publish will attract opinions, some good and some bad. After one of my articles for xml.com they set up a forum to discuss it, and the title of he first post was "This is a terrible advice for Perl developers". That's OK, if people disagree then they should say so. I learnt a thing or two in the ensuing discussion.

Now there might have been a problem in how you got to read chromatic's opinion, but why not send him an email, or /msg him and get this out of the way so you (and we) can discuss calmly the technical disagreements you have.

On that point I am certainly not an expert in using DBI, but when reading your article I could not help but notice that it was quite unfair with DBI. If DBIx::Recordset is such a great module you don't have to use deliberately clumsy DBI constructs to prove it. This certainly detracts from your goal. And believe me, if I noticed it, I am probably not the only one. Being enthusiastic about a module is one thing, not being fair when comparing it to other modules is another.

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Re: Re: DBI vs DBIx::Recordset vs princepawn vs chromatic
by princepawn (Parson) on Mar 08, 2001 at 03:12 UTC
    On that point I am certainly not an expert in using DBI, but when reading your article I could not help but notice that it was quite unfair with DBI. If DBIx::Recordset is such a great module you don't have to use deliberately clumsy DBI constructs to prove it. This certainly detracts from your goal. And believe me, if I noticed it, I am probably not the only one. Being enthusiastic about a module is one thing, not being fair when comparing it to other modules is another.

    That's a good point and it's not the first time that it has been made. In fact, the very article you see on perl.com was rejected at The Perl Journal with the major complaint being I didn't need to spend time slamming DBI, but could instead just show how great Recordset was and attract interest that way.

    Your point is now taken, but please understand: when I used that crufty example, my intent was not: "oh boy let me come up with some super-crappy DBI code and scare everyone off from it." In fact, until I read this thread, it never occurred to me that that would be the way that people would take that example.

    That example came about simply because I had to fix something and it was right there staring me in the face. And then I began to think: "if only Recordset were the de facto application-level interface, things like this could not be written." And then things continued from there. I kept writing and piecing together ideas until it turned into an article.

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