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Re^4: Moose and default values

by tobyink (Canon)
on Feb 22, 2013 at 11:41 UTC ( [id://1020140]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^3: Moose and default values
in thread Moose and default values

"Why is that?"

Good question. I wasn't sure myself. I seem to recall RJBS saying that initializers were his first ever contribution to Moose, but that he regretted ever adding them.

The best reasons I could come up with were:

  • It leads to inconsistent behaviour when an attribute value is set via the constructor versus a writer method. (Of course, this isn't an issue for read-only attributes.)

  • Initializers can't be inlined whereas type coercions can be partly compiled into a more efficient form, and have potential for improvement.

Having asked in #moose, I've had the following additional suggestions:

  • The initializer isn't called until after type constraints have been checked, so initializers don't work for one of the main use cases you'd expect them to be useful for: to munge values to conform to their type constraints.

  • (I'll add to this list when I receive more responses from IRC.)

package Cow { use Moo; has name => (is => 'lazy', default => sub { 'Mooington' }) } say Cow->new->name

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