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Re: Scratchpad Bug

by demerphq (Chancellor)
on Apr 17, 2006 at 15:56 UTC ( #543853=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Scratchpad Bug

Scratchpad viewmode is 'sticky' because it made several things managable. Its not ideal, but it does work pretty well.

Anyway, to be clear: if 'viewmode' is not specified when viewing a scratchpad it will display in the last mode explicitly requested. Selectcode to download support (in all forms) from a scratchpad depends on this stickyness.

What was wrong is that a key function, called scratchpad_link was not supplying a default mode. This is fixed now, so there should be no more surprising behaviour, except if people link to your own scratchpad by id. People linking to your pad using [pad://user] will get the correct thing (as it uses scratchpad_link).


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Re^2: Scratchpad Bug
by Limbic~Region (Chancellor) on Apr 17, 2006 at 16:35 UTC
    I realize I don't have much room to complain here as I am not a devil nor do I desire to be one. I do however feel I contribute in other meaningful ways. One of which in the past was financially.

    I am not sure why the community doesn't have more a say in what features get added or not. I don't really like the changes to the scratchpad, inbox, or a few other things I don't remember at the moment. I also don't remember there being a request for input before implementation either.

    I am not suggesting that every change require a consensus vote. The people managing the site have always done a decent job of exercising common sense. It is just frustrating and I am just venting. I am not going anywhere anytime soon but I will no longer contribute money (for reasons explained elsewhere).

    Update: I figured I should be fair. There is Inner Scriptorium for discussion on changes to the site. As indicated, it intended to be used by pmdev. Regular users are only made aware of new entries when they appear on Newest Nodes. As pointed out by bart in No link to Scriptorium, there hasn't been a whole lot of announcement about this section or what it is for so how would anyone know to go there looking for proposed ideas. In other words, it is convenient to say that a topic affecting the entire town will be discussed at the next town meeting but doesn't do anyone much good if the announcment is in fine print of the last page of the newspaper

    Cheers - L~R

      Seperating the scratchpad private content from the public content was a long standing request/objective/todo. Improving the inbox had a number of objectives and was discussed in the CB and in Scriptorium around the time it was done. There was even a trial version released so people could give feedback. I dont recall you protesting back then.

      If you have specific issues with the scratchpad stuff or the inbox then please express them clearly and ill see what I can do. But I think you should remember a lot things that you probably take for granted on the site were coded by me so I think you can give me a break when something I've done doesn't exactly match your preferences.

      Regarding the money issue comment I'm not really sure why you want to say it to me. I'm not responsible for how PM money was handled, I never received a cent for any of my contributions and never asked for any. I did ask for some of the PM money to go towards supporting the pmdev server, but since of late I havent had the time (or frankly the inclination) to work on PM much I never really followed up on it as I couldn't guarantee the money would be well used.


        I apologize for not adequately expressing that, while my reply was to you, my comments were not. I was just venting. It would have probably been better served in the CB.

        The specific thing I don't like about the scratchpad is the 4 links on the homenode. I said as much on the CB the day it was implemented.

        I don't recall seeing any CB or Scriptorium discussion on the inbox changes. I wouldn't call Possible new inbox implementation much of a discussion. I did ask in the CB when it was implemented if there was anyway to remove the "And # more, # archived" message. I was told no, though I don't remember by whom.

        I like the site and I know about thankless efforts so I will try not to bring it up again. Keeping in mind that my post was a general venting I won't address the rest of your post. I think I have done so elsewhere.

        Cheers - L~R

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