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Registering your nick on other sites

by arhuman (Vicar)
on Apr 05, 2001 at 19:22 UTC ( [id://70132]=perlmeditation: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


Chating with Albannach, OeufMayo and others,
we came up with the idea to register our perlmonks nick on several sites (slashdot for example) to prevent someone else using them with bad intents...

I quickly came up with an (ugly) script to mass register monks on slashdot (easily transatable to other sites, see on my homenode)

So here are my questions :
  • Do you think it's a bad behaviour ?
  • Do some of you want their perlmonks' nick to be registered on other sites ?
  • What site would you like to register ?

UPDATE :
Sorry I didn't make it more clear, but I'm talking to mass register only the monks willing to...
My Idea is mainly a convenience for those interested in registering several sites at a time.
As most of the people interested will register by hand anyway, what's wrong ? I'm just trying to optimize the process.


"Only Bad Coders Badly Code In Perl" (OBC2IP)

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Re: Registering your nick on other sites
by Albannach (Monsignor) on Apr 05, 2001 at 20:00 UTC
    Here's the original story from my end:

    - Oeufmayo /msgs me asking if I have a /. account as he's getting headlines in his e-mail directed to me
    - I check out /. and find my name has been registered, with Oeufmayo's e-mail address, and three trollish messages (e.g.) posted on April 2, 2001 (Perlmonks was mentioned in the messages)
    - I find that you can't delete or edit messages on /. - Bah!
    - I went to the login screen, requested that my password be e-mailed to "me"
    - Good Abbot Oeufmayo changed the password and sent me the new one so my nick is again mine!

    As to your questions:

    • it's not bad as it can only serve to reduce nausea everywhere, and /.'s own FAQ says that unused accounts can't hurt (they must have a million already anyway)
    • I am interested in protecting my nick (up until today I figured nobody would want to use it but I hadn't considered being imtrollsonated (a great word coined by tye))
    • What sites is my question too. All the sites I use now have a pretty limited audience so I'm interested in hearing suggestions.

    --
    I'd like to be able to assign to an luser

Re: Registering your nick on other sites
by d4vis (Chaplain) on Apr 05, 2001 at 22:30 UTC
    How would we feel if Slashdot mass registered all of their users on PM?
    I think we would consider that bad behavior.

    ~monk d4vis
    #!/usr/bin/fnord

Re: Registering your nick on other sites
by extremely (Priest) on Apr 06, 2001 at 00:04 UTC
    heh extremely is user 1681 on /. since I've been there since before they allowed logins. =P Mass registry of nicks is evil BTW since most of them will never cross over. Don't do it.

    Update: Well, with the clarification added above, mass updating for known volunteers isn't nearly as bad as just grabbin the MonkList(tm) and blasting it onto sites. =)

    --
    $you = new YOU;
    honk() if $you->love(perl)

Re: Registering your nick on other sites
by Adam (Vicar) on Apr 05, 2001 at 19:57 UTC
    I tried doing this manually... but evidently, "Adam" is a common name.
Re: Registering your nick on other sites
by r.joseph (Hermit) on Apr 06, 2001 at 03:51 UTC
    I'd have to say I agree with those who don't believe that the mass registration of nicks is a good idea. Now, I can see the point (because it is a big bummer when someone attempts to steal your 'identity' on the Net), but I don't think that it is prudent to go and register a nick on someone's system that you may never use. The Internet is built around anonymity - there is really nothing you can do if someone doesn't have the integrity to show who they really are and decides to go trolling with a nick that is 'yours'. And besides, most of the people here are very good people who wouldn't go start flame wars anyway, so it is usually fairly obvious that it is not the person it seems to be.

    r. j o s e p h
    "Violence is a last resort of the incompetent" - Salvor Hardin, Foundation by Issac Asimov
Re: Registering your nick on other sites
by bobione (Pilgrim) on Apr 07, 2001 at 14:09 UTC

    Your question is interesting and it's good to ask Monks if they are agree...
    I am not.

    I understand that old Monks with big experience have a reputation and don't want to be "hacked" by another evil Troll but I'm not sure that it's the way of "Open Internet". Usually, nicks are originals and can't be easily used by someone else without evil intentions. If your nick is use by someone else it's because it's an usual one (like surname or small one). I don't think lot's of people have bad intentions (I am a good Monk).

    If you would have a mass-register, you probably don't use more than half sites where you will be reg on. My name is Antoine, as lot's of people in France. And I would be happy, if one day I need to reg on a site with my surname, that another people didn't mass-reg on 10/15 or more sites and use only ONE.
    The best exemple is for email adresse : imagine you mass reg your email and now you've got, antoine@hotmail.com, antoine@yahoo.com, antoine@caramail.com... You don't need all this email adresses and you don't need all this nicks for all the perl sites...

    On each site, I take a different nick if it still in use. It's a kind of anonymity...
    That right, I usually give my email, you can know my IP, but you don't really know who I am. If I want to be identified, I give you my ID papers and my social key ID...

    Well... I have thied to explain my feellings, I was not really clear but I hope everyone understand what I mean. I am not complettly against mass-registration but I give you some bad points for me.
    Excuse me for my not perfect english.

    BoBiOne KenoBi ;)

(ichimunki) Re: Registering your nick on other sites
by ichimunki (Priest) on Apr 06, 2001 at 18:26 UTC
    While I'll be put out if I ever catch anyone using ichimunki on another site or anywhere really. I think I'd only want it registered on sites I actually use (like Slashdot or Perl Monks). For some reason I haven't registered it on Kuro5hin or E2 and I'd have to wonder if it's available as an AIM screen name (I've probably registered it and forgotten the password). I suppose to be safe I should grab ichimunki@hotmail.com and ichimunki@yahoo.com and any other thing like that where someone could be impersonating me.

    I've already got it as ichimunki.com, but AFAIK no one's gone after .net or .org. Names on the internet are always going to be a problem. I think my favorite is when I get mail for the .net or .org versions of a domain I have as .com.

    Here's an idea I'd almost rather see, a Tk-script that lets me edit a posting, spell-check it, then creates a GPG digital signature for it, and appends that to the message so I can cut and paste into the input box and be certain that imposters cannot imitate me without my private key. (Is this even possible? I still don't quite get how public key encryption works.)

      To my mind you will only provide a WAY to discriminate a fake ichimunki from the real one
      ( if you're the real one ;-)
      But will people WANT to check if it's the real ichimunki by looking for your sign in the post ?
      Will they ever KNOW that you always sign your post ?

      If I go on betterperlmonks.org (sorry for the blasphem vroom)
      create an ichimunki account and start posting crap,
      any betterperlmonks.org user that will see your signed posts here on perlmonks will think :
      'why is he signing his post ?'
      and maybe 'hey his posts seem to improve'
      but they will more likely think 'oh no ! ichimunki is posting crap here too...'

      Now for a purely technical aspect :
      I don't think that the average 'joe' knows how to use PGP,
      (I'm not even talking about GPG...)
      And I don't think that those who knows will make the effort to try to get your public key (where ?)
      to verify your sign post (why ?)...

      "Only Bad Coders Badly Code In Perl" (OBC2IP)
Re: Registering your nick on other sites
by Fingo (Monk) on Apr 06, 2001 at 22:46 UTC
    Why would someone want to impersonate a monk on OTHER SITES? If the monk is not regestered on the other site, it means that most of the other users there would not know them. If they are, they would be using another name and would be just annoyed (users of both sites probably know who's-who). So what do people gain from stoping others from impersonating them? Can someone clarify?

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