Re: If (the PM XP system) ain't broke, don't fix it
by jdtoronto (Prior) on Jan 25, 2004 at 14:54 UTC
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vsth, I too read the post from theorbtwo about potential changes to the XP/Voting system and I wondered, why?
Periodically we here about how bad/discriminatory/discouraging our XP and Voting system is. But it seems to me that is usually in response to something inflamatory that has just happened and not in response to a long felt and deep conviction that something is inherently wrong. In fact I would suggest that our XP system right now is pretty gentle, non-intrusive and works well. After a brief period of 'training' the neophyte monk gets the ability to vote, he progresses, but what does that offer him? Nothing really! Well, nothing much more than a sense of belonging and the knowledge that help is at hand.
Those who find the Monastery a place of value show their appreciation by their continued activity here. To me the monastery has been like lurking on the campus of Perl University. Reading the threads is a bit like sticking your head into a lecture theatre and catching a dissertation on a single topic. To read the CB is like walking around the common room and listening in to the conversations between the dons. I enjoy this place and the helpful advice, the admonition to do better and the generally supportive nature of the monks.
I don't think it is broken, so I hope our gods don't try to fix it.
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Re: If (the PM XP system) ain't broke, don't fix it
by blue_cowdawg (Monsignor) on Jan 25, 2004 at 14:59 UTC
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At first when I saw the subject of this node I had an
entirely different idea about what it was about before
I read it. When I hear the phrase "if it ain't broke
don't fix it" in my profession I get my dander up
just a tad. Why?
First off lots of folks live with broken "things"
such as slow computers, applications that crash all the
time etc. and don't even realize that it's broke. They
just just accept the status quo and reload the application
or put up with delays etc.
I am a Unix Engineer by title and my job is to point
out to such folks that it's broke and how to fix it.
That's what I get the medium sized bucks for and when
we as engineers figure out how to fix it and life gets
better for the end user they are happy and I go on to the
next thing that might be broke and on it goes.
Is the XP system broke? Dunno. ysth makes the statement
that
Somehow, our founders have got things right.
Probably right, but how can I say? What yardstick do I
have to measure "right" with in this case?
What right do I have to measure it? I'm not one of the
gods anyway!
Part of why I hesitate one way or another to say if
the XP system is broke or not is the simple fact that
I don't know what our founders had in mind
and in my not-so-humble opinion they are the
only ones who can say definitively if it's broke or not.
Closing thought: XP is probably the least important facet
of PM to me anyway. This could be one reason I don't
see the system as being broke.
Peter L. Berghold -- Unix Professional Peter at Berghold dot Net |
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Re: If (the PM XP system) ain't broke, don't fix it
by Abigail-II (Bishop) on Jan 26, 2004 at 01:07 UTC
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Somehow, our founders have got things right.
They got what right? What were the goals? To get a bunch of
people postings things on a website? That's happening, but
that's also happening on other sites, some of them who are
looked to in disdain. Or is it to attract Perl people?
Well, there are Perl people here, but you could have gotten
Perl people in lots of other ways too. And there are a lot
of Perl people who are active on about any other Perl forum
I know, but who don't want to touch Perlmonks with a 10 foot-pole.
So, what exactly did the "founders" get right?
Abigail
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And there are a lot of Perl people who are active on about any other Perl forum I know, but who don't want to touch Perlmonks with a 10 foot-pole.
I'd be interested to know what most bothers those people, and why you (apparently) don't agree.
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It seems to be focussed on two issues. First, the snobbish
attitude (our founders have got things right),
second, the klunky interface.
Abigail
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Re: If (the PM XP system) ain't broke, don't fix it
by Anonymous Monk on Jan 26, 2004 at 02:10 UTC
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Can you give examples of 1 and 3? And I disagree on reputation (though it may be only max(min(int($rep/25),5),-5) that's a pretty reliable (with of course a few exceptions)). :)
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Re: If (the PM XP system) ain't broke, don't fix it
by Anonymous Monk on Jan 26, 2004 at 02:36 UTC
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I second your numbers.
I logged in, but for what?
Simply to vote? Simply to chat? Maintain my personal node, as web hosting? actively ask questions? actively provide answers?
You appears to unreasonablly simplify the meaning of those numbers. If you cannot give those numbers a more meaningful analysis, let's don't quote them to mislead people.
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