I agree that letting newbies actually put their code into
a 'prodution' environment would be disastrous.
But I think it would be great for newbies to be able to
view the source
and make changes on their own systems. If they think they
are on to something then they can submit a patch for a more
advanced monk to approve and checkin to a source tree.
I helped teach intro programming courses and I found that a
newbie often had excellent ideas because his/her mental slate
was clean. I think most of us get stuck in little
programming
paradigms that are hard to see out of. Sometimes a fresh
look at problems (no matter what the skill level) can be
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May be I was a little hard.
But I had some bad experience with newbies.
There is a difference being a newbie and a very very newbie
Making stupid mistakes is no problem with me, everybody makes them. But fuck-up a site and overwrite the original one with the bad one is *very* stupid.
I agree letting newbies do hings, but do them local !!!! And think before you do things like this.
Another example: At my former school the sys-admins are setting up firewalls and don't know what they're doing, they're testing with 250 users working on the network... Testing ok but not something that's needed to work, use tes-systems!!
Sorry if I offended newbies.
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First: If the users coud help with the develpoement of this site, it woud be nice. I think we woud see many new and interesting features.
Second: If a newbie wants to do something for this website, I think he or she shoud be encouraged. I think this shoud be a learning environment, and a place for the fun of Perl. I don't think we want people who want to contribute, or even ask newbie questions, to feel stupid or not welcome.
Of course the code have to be moderated first.
I hope vroom will get som time to code by himself and not just moderate our code :o)
/wonko
Just Another Perl Newbie
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The basic code is available from Everything Development Company. vroom's made a few customizations here and there (special nodetypes, mostly), but just about anyone with a Un*x box and MySQL can get a test site going. | [reply] |
I've been thinking maybe it would be alright to have an area on the website (not front and center), where newbies could practice development, and show off their newly aquired skills. | [reply] |
