This entire subthread seems like a good example of something that sheds more heat than light. Ok, so maybe
tinita's original posting needed a bit of clarifification, that doesn't mean it was wrong.
herveus's use of phrases like "blithely" and "somone who ... does not have enough depth" are , IMNSHO, uncalled for, as is the heavy-handed lecturing against a position which, by my reading,
tinita never took in the first place. Which doesn't negate the fact that I agree with much of what
herveus says about normalization. Lighten up folks!