Re: Re: Amsterdam PM meetings

[larsen]

Maybe I shouldn't enter this thread, but I think I missed something. I fail to see why you're apologizing with kudra and the other monks mentioned in your node (except for Abigail-II, who explicitly said to be pissed by being cited). The thought "Hey, let's go to see those VIPs" never hit my head. I never thought about Abigail-II as a monkey in a cage to admire, but as a competent person, surely interesting to meet face-to-face, and not through the limits of the net. Why isn't that ok?

[liz]

The reason that it wasn't ok, was that I didn't ask them beforehand whether it was ok to mention them. I didn't give them the option to not be mentioned. That was my wrong judgement in this.

Liz

[Anonymous Monk]

I don't want to ever meet Abigail-II, there are too many other intelligent and civil Perlmonks out there.

[benn]

Putting on my other hats, I can completely understand Abigail-II's point (though maybe it was a *little* OTT...) I've been in the position before where I've been invited to an event, stated quite clearly that I *may* turn up and then received a fair amount of stick when I didn't / couldn't.

Although you may not be a 'VIP-spotter', many other people are, often to the point of being scary! Being 'known' in a community can carry a certain degree of responsibility and create expectations, which Abigail-II may not be prepared to take on. As a perfomer, people often expect me to be 'always on', and can be disappointed by my (relatively) normal persona IRL. Sometimes, one needs a peer group rather than an audience.

Cheers, Ben.