Re^4: Amicable divorce (The Camel Paradox)

[ribasushi]

Linux distributions might abandon system Perl?

I suspect this is not a rhetorical question. The answer is: not only "might": this is already happening at dizzying speed. The current promise to gentrify your oneliners at all costs does not help reverse that trend.

[LanX]

> promise to gentrify your oneliners at all costs

Jesus! OO

Perl started as bash on steroids, that's our home base.

Cutting a tree's roots because you live up in the crown is not the cleverest idea. That's where the seed can survive for decades.

Guys, just create master pragmas and alias different bin/p_whatever to it and everybody is happy.

Creating a bad copy of python will hardly work, that's like cutting down the hump of a Camel to make it race better against a horse.

[chromatic]

The current promise to gentrify your oneliners at all costs...

... is a very dishonest reading of that message, one which ignores the rest of the thread which pushes back against it.

Which is it? Is it already happening at dizzying speed, or is this just a discussion where one person has an idea and other people disagree?

[ribasushi]

> ... the rest of the thread which pushes back against it ... just a discussion where one person has an idea and other people disagree?

chromatic, you are lying and misdirecting. Please stop.

[LanX]

It's really bothering me that key players of the community are resorting to more and more vitriol in the discussion. (including <update: names deleted> to name a few)

Why isn't it possible to create a process where

• interest groups are identified
• a common strategy is outlined
• RFCs are formulated with a test suite
• a quality management looks over proof of concept and the implementation

I always thought that my lack of understanding of P5P discussions is due to my limited knowledge.

But I'm certain now that there is a serious and frustrating communication problem which needs to be resolved politically.

And "politically" means a discussion and decision process which is transparent, reliable and efficient.

Probably with mediators channeling the diplomacy and questioning the terminology.

Update

I'm totally pro dispute just in a scientific way, i.e sober and non emotional.